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It's not as if I sent him key A from the shady site and he thanked me by sending a legit key. They cleared the license as being valid for production environment. Everything was cleared.Īs for the MS employee, he asked me to buy a license from the "shady site" and send him the entire package we received so they could analyze the validity. The RDS licenses were also part of the audit, as was everything. He then purchased the needed licenses on the spot. Going as far as openly laughing in my face when I came with a quote for new licenses and he said "Why would I pay X when I can legally get everything I need for a 10th of the cost". The owner has, to this day, never tried to hide their way of licensing. The client provided us with just the keys to activate, they buy from a specific party which appearantly deliver valid keys because they survived two audits, one being on-prem with some serious firepower and direct contact with MS.Īs for the on-prem audit being a targeted action, we are unsure but we are almost sure this has been because of a disgruntled ex-employee who was aware of the licensing. I feel like I either explained things incorrectly or you didn't ready my post in its entirety. They're not supposed to (as part of agreement of employment or what have you, i forget the exact details) sell/give them to third parties, the discount is just for themselves only. You got one that had never been used before.Īs to the MS employee discount side of things, yea, that's for MS employee use only, but they're full retail licenses. If you went to, punched in the key, and it activated, you didn't get a pre-used/transferred RDS CAL. It's technically impossible once the key's been used without some REALLY extenuating circumstances. RDS CALs especially - you can't actually sell those "second hand" without doing an entire license server transfer from the activated license server (and that includes all licenses that the server had activated on it, you need at /least/ the server's GUID to use in the activation portal to do the transfer to a new one). Though, especially with how RDS cals work, missing documentation isn't necessarily a big issue with them given how tightly controlled their activation and transfer is once used. Sounds like they may have been looking for something specific. Though, they do return back in VAMT as "RETAIL" channel keys, even though they aren't. That's crazy, and reeks of them trying to find something else if that's true - as just receiving a key is in no way shape or form an entitlement or license grant, and sounds exactly like what these kinds of keys are. We have never seen any proof, we just got the keys to activate stuff and that's it. When I asked about reselling such a license to clients it went awfully quiet. The license cost me 69,99 (retail was 800-900-ish if I recall correctly), I didn't get the full results of the check BUT he said the license was valid and I would be allowed to use it in a production environment. I have bought a single Server 2016 license a couple of years ago because a friend of mine who works at MS in Ireland asked if I could provide a license for them to check. It has sparked so many debates with other MSPs and some even started selling/using the same party the client uses. We cleared this with legal to make sure this couldn't come back to hurt us and the owner signed a waiver basically saying we were not involved in any way, shape or form in the aquirement of the licenses we just typed in the keys.Īnyway, they passed without as much as a warning. Back then it was server licenses, server user CALs, SQL server license, SQL user CALs, RDS licenses. But everything server related has always been bought "refurbished". I was instructed to grant full admin access to them.Ĭlient always bought workstations directly from Dell so those licenses were fine. There was a court order and the 3 dudes doing the checks were accompanied by police. The on-prem audit was extremely thorough. Completely different story with a bunch of lawsuits. We are 99% sure a fired employee reported the client, said employee was fired for trying to steal company data after said employee said they were leaving for a direct competitor. We weren't around for the first audit but the second audit was on-prem with a party that facilitates audits/checks based on evidence of misconduct.
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